Special Guest: Alex Russell | Content Machine Ep. #38

Kevin Adelsberger
Welcome to the Content Machine Podcast. This week, I’m joined by one of our own, Alex Russell. Alex, thanks for joining us.

Alex Russell
Thanks for bringing me on. It’s a pleasure to be here.

Kevin Adelsberger
That’s great. I’m glad that you’re excited about it. You’re going to talk about all about video interviews, which is a big part of what you do. Yeah. We lost him folks.

Alex Russell
Yeah.

Kevin Adelsberger
This week, Alex, you’re going to talk to us about how to interview someone for videos, right?

Alex Russell
That’s right.

Kevin Adelsberger
Yeah. Can you tell us about your first interview that you did on Video?

Alex Russell
Yeah. I say I have a rich history. I’m in my late 20s, but I remember my very first interview in a very embarrassing way. Yes, can I help you? Okay, go ahead. Okay, I’ll start right there.

Kevin Adelsberger
This is going to be. Okay.

Alex Russell
Sounds like he’s making fun of me. It’s okay. People can’t take me seriously, so this is my fault. You should have had someone else interview me. Now that you’re about to interview me, I’m just…

Kevin Adelsberger
I need all the tips I could get. Yeah. Tell us about your first interview.

Alex Russell
My first interview was right at the beginning of high school for me. With the accessibility of video and being able to edit, shoot video rising as I was going through high school, I, believe it or not, was part of what they called APUSH, which is Accelerated… I don’t know what it’s called. Ap History, that’s what it was. I had to do a book review about George Washington, and actually by Ron Chernow. Yeah, I didn’t read all of it because it was long. It is very long. I skimmed it, but don’t tell my history teacher. Anyway, we had an option of writing an essay or producing a video as a form of book review, a book assignment to, so that we read the book, what we learned. That was my first dip into it. A lot of cutaways, a lot of talking to myself. I was very proud of myself. I did a very, some would say, a very nuanced special effect.

Kevin Adelsberger
How did you score on the paper? How did you score on the video?

Alex Russell
The video itself, I did really well, yeah. That was-It was encouragement. -it was encouraging for me to be able to do that. But also, I think just that experience of making, because even to date, that was one of my earlier videos that I actually set down to produce. I have wrote a basic script, which most of the interviews I do today aren’t scripted, but, you know. It was the first really structured video that I did. And so it just happened to be an interview with myself, which is totally normal.

Kevin Adelsberger
That’s high school. What about college? Did you do any interviews during college?

Alex Russell
Sure, yeah. I just had some experiences in college where I was able to conduct a few interviews for classes that we did, where we would… It was an assignment at the time, but I was able to conduct interview that if you look at, which I won’t reveal the footage of the high school one because it’s really embarrassing because I’m an awake. But you have it? Yeah, I do have it.

Kevin Adelsberger
Is it at your parents’ house?

Alex Russell
No, it’s on YouTube. I’m sure somebody can find it if they work hard enough.

Kevin Adelsberger
First person to find it. I will give you a $5 Starbucks card. Leave that in the edit, Eric.

Alex Russell
That would be a lot of work for $5 at Starbucks. But you also get to view it, and some would say that’s worth more than anything. In college, a level of experience, I was able to produce this interview with… It was a local artist at the time. For the first time, I was incorporating some significant B-roll, which is just supplementary footage to help push the narrative forward, give some visual examples of what the interviewee is talking about. And so, gained experience from that all the way up to I had a multi-year long internship with a local church media team where we would conduct a lot of testimony videos that they would do within the church setting. And so, which is probably where I learned the most because I was able to, in that setting, this wasn’t like… In student settings, it’s very forgiving if you mess up. The person you’re working with, for example, was also a student, so in some ways it felt very easy-breezy. But for the first time at the church, I was dealing with stories that had a lot of meaning. Not that the interview I did with the artist didn’t, but this one had implications that more impacted people’s lives and serious and heavy. Very personal, yeah. I think that’s where I actually learned a lot about how impactful an interview can be because like I said, both of those prior interviews, although they were fun and they were great for experience, they didn’t really provide me… They didn’t really have that, and some of that was on my part being so novice in it, but it didn’t have that impact that I realized later that interviews can have.

Kevin Adelsberger
Alex, what’s like the first thing that you tell an interviewee when they come into the room?

Alex Russell
What I tell them? I usually, after they get settled, try to make sure there is as comfortable as they can be when they’re in front of the camera. But there’s this… Before I start any interview, there is an anecdote that I commonly go back to, which is, if I were to ask you, this is it, by the way. I’m not continuing what I’m saying. This is the actual, so tune in, this is it. If I were to ask you what color the sky is, and you just said blue, which is a great answer. It could be true. However, what I tell the interviewee is within the editing process, although that answer is true and the answer is good, it sounds very confusing without all the context of what I asked question-wise. So all the people watching the video are going to know is that you said the word blue, which could be anything. It could be- Color of a dog. -color of a dog. It could be the color of your favorite candy.

Kevin Adelsberger
-color of your clues.

Alex Russell
-color of your clues. Yeah. I don’t think we can bring up blues clues. But anyway, yeah, there’s so many blue objects in the world, like who knew that I was talking about this guy. This exercise of, if I ask you what cover this guy is, it’s an opportunity to teach the interviewee how, when they answer a question that’s being asked. It teaches them that adding some context or repeating the question a little bit to add context to their answer can be really helpful when conducting the edit can be really helpful when putting together the edit. It creates that context that without it, can just make it where the answer is not as usable because, like I said, without the context of knowing that I asked what color the sky is, the answer blue doesn’t make a lot of sense. Instead, maybe they could say, This guy is blue, when they answer or providing some of that context.

Kevin Adelsberger
That could make an entire interview be very different for editing purposes. It could go from a useless interview to a very useful interview.

Alex Russell
Right. Because without it, you could totally lose that answer. You totally just have no use for it. And especially when people are starting to answer a question, sometimes they say some really good stuff at the beginning. It’s just such a great sadness whenever that answer is just not- Usable later. -useable without that context. Yeah.

Kevin Adelsberger
It’s hard to hear that in the moment, too, because you might think you got this awesome answer because you heard the context and then you go watch it out of context. You’re like, Oh, I can’t do anything with this. Right.

Alex Russell
Which is great for comedy, but not great for —

Kevin Adelsberger
Not great for editing videos. What are some do and do nots of interviews?

Alex Russell
One of the do’s that I stick to pretty commonly is how I try to make sure the guest is as comfortable as possible, encouraging them, really, because you have to realize most people in their lives, sometimes even some might do it just semi-regularly, but often times this might be their first time on camera, first time doing interview. And so, naturally, you’re going to be, if you were the one being interviewed, you’re going to be pretty uncomfortable. You’re going to be under the lights, and that pressure is really going to start getting to your head. One of the things I encourage them with is, thankfully, they don’t have to look at the camera when it comes to interview. They look at me. Oftentimes, that creates a more natural conversation feel.

Kevin Adelsberger
Yeah, because they feel like they’re talking to you and not talking to a camera.

Alex Russell
Right. Which talking to the camera can be very whole black hole experience of Am I actually talking to somebody? How do I look? It can be very disorienting. It also keeps the eye contact from being directly into the lens, which when you watch a video that someone’s… When you’re watching a video where someone has been looking directly in the lens, you’ll get this effect where they’re almost talking directly toward you, which is great for some videos, but for a lot of interviews, you want to be like, I’m catching this interview from a bystander perspective. Got you. Yeah.

Kevin Adelsberger
Then do you go in with a script for interviews?

Alex Russell
In the hopes of being more of an authentic experience, the interviews themselves are not too scripted to a T. Usually, there’s outlines to add some direction. Sometimes I’ll even share that with the interviewee just to give them some comfort of where we’re going, how many questions they’re going to be, because once you start, sometimes they could be like, How long is this going to be like? I don’t want to be here for another hour. They can keep up with the direction of the interview. There’s generally a rough outline, but as far as a full script goes, it’s very bare bones because we want it to, again, that conversational aspect of the interview. We don’t want it to control the narrative at all. We don’t want to make it so that the person feels like they have to say certain thing and being willing to follow the interviewee if it’s appropriate, if it’s not too much of a tangent, because then there’s so much you can prepare for an interview. But if the interviewee surprises you, you might end up in a more unique perspective that you just even-

Kevin Adelsberger
Yeah, you wouldn’t even know I was there.

Alex Russell
Yeah, not at all. That’s something that’s always important to do, is just be ready to be loosey, goosey, creative. Don’t get too strict on it.

Kevin Adelsberger
Yeah, you can go off book. Are you saying if you see a path that’s maybe off the question you’d planned because they’ve said something, that could be a great opportunity to get another piece of insight that you hadn’t planned on.

Alex Russell
Yeah, absolutely.

Kevin Adelsberger
Is there anything we should avoid when we’re doing interviews?

Alex Russell
Yes.

Kevin Adelsberger
Great. Well, that’s been the Content Machine Podcast. Is there anything we shouldn’t do when we’re recording an interview?

Alex Russell
Absolutely, yeah. There’s numerous things. Some things that come to mind, though, is to, I mentioned earlier, definitely don’t want to manipulate someone’s answer, but don’t be afraid if someone needs help finding out what they want to say. I think there’s some fear of that layer like you’re talking with them a little bit off to the side of an interview of like you’re working through a question that you just asked them and they just seem so lost, which happens because again, there’s that pressure and you want to make them feel comfortable. And so sometimes some people need some of that direction where, of course, you want to preface it with, I don’t want to force you to say this, but see if you can figure out what direction they might be trying to go in to encourage them to be like, Okay, you can go that direction. Go down that avenue of answering the question that way, if that’s what’s true to them. I think because so much, if you’re just throwing questions at them and they’re just like, I have no idea, it’s not very helpful to just keep their own questions and then just already in an uncomfortable situation, they’re feeling like, Oh, I can’t answer these. I need a lifeline. So being that lifeline is something that you want to make sure you’re not straying away from, even as the interviewer. My other don’t is something that it’s a personal problem for me. I have the tendency to, especially when I meet a new person, even something as small as a waiter or waitress, I want to create this small talk atmosphere that makes them feel like, Okay, I can talk here. We’re having a casual conversation. But don’t ask them too many questions that are off topic, right? There’s some time at the beginning to do that as they’re walking in, you’re having small talk. But while it’s good to be creative and take, not tangents, but follow their direction as they’re talking, right? You don’t want to end up somewhere where you’re talking about something totally different, even for the sake of being a conversationalist or just being a nice and cheery person of wanting to have a conversation with them, don’t let that. There’s some professionalism there where it’s important to make sure that the interview is not becoming so casual that you miss the point of the whole interview. That’s something that you have to really reel it in sometimes, even if your natural tendency is to not —

Kevin Adelsberger
Just keep talking.

Alex Russell
Yeah, keep talking.

Kevin Adelsberger
Well, let’s say you get that really good interview. What’s the value of one of those really good interviews?

Alex Russell
The impact of a good conducted interview has the result of offering this unique perspective, whether it’s for you could be interviewing for a company, for their website, maybe it’s for a program that they’ve started. Maybe they’re just talking about what it’s like to work for this company or this nonprofit in a way that you can’t really get across personally as a bullet list of facts of like, We treat our coworkers like this. We have this percentage. Those are great for understanding purposes, but to hear it come from a person directly from them, from their experience means so much because we, as people, we relate to that. We relate to experience.

Internship Diary #2 The First Mistake isn’t the End of the World

Last Friday, the end of week two in my internship with Adelsberger Marketing, was one of the first days that you could tell that fall would eventually penetrate through the dome of heat radiating from every building in Jackson. This was cause for celebration the way that these things always are: a universal mood booster, the type of thing that sends people walking through the streets with a skip in their step like a newly transformed Ebenezer Scrooge looking for the biggest goose in the window. Photos of Pumpkin Spice Lattes and pumpkin-scented candles landed in the company Slack channel as celebration of this inkling of seasonal hope. 

I sat in my room at my desk, ambient lofi music playing in the background as it always does when I work, feeling content. Classes were over for the week and all that remained was the routine plugging away of moving around images and video clips to be posted on various social media as promotion for the Content Machine podcast. This work flow, and the atmosphere of working from the pleasant comfort of my dorm, made me especially happy not to be drudging in an office somewhere. Obviously, remote work has its perks. 

Without warning, the easy-going simplicity of my afternoon ended. I was confused about one of the tasks outlined for posting the podcast, and searched through any resource I could find for the answer. Nothing — not in my Google doc, not in my Slack messages, nowhere. It crept upon me slowly, like a horror movie villain which the audience can see but the protagonist can only sense, that Kevin was the only one with the answer. This would not have been an issue except for one hang up: Kevin had already clocked out for the day. Interrupting my boss, the founder of the company, during his time off was not a thought I relished. Nevertheless, I faced the music and texted him my question.

He responded quickly, then called me to walk me through the problem. Within five minutes, the issue was solved, but it felt like an eternity. My gratitude for remote work took on a different form; now I was just glad I didn’t have to make this mistake while looking Kevin in the eye. Phones are a godsend when taking responsibility isn’t your cup of tea. It’s so much less personal. 

I completed the task and closed my laptop. Honestly, the fix was simple and easy. Kevin didn’t sound bothered at all. Still, I apologized via text. Kevin responded: “We didn’t set you up for success.” This was not entirely true. I could have listened better, asked better questions, or taken better notes. Still, the important thing is that he was gracious and he put my mind at ease. A five minute mistake wasn’t the end of the world. The first mistake will happen. Don’t let it get to you. 

What Makes Good Work – Pt. 3 | Content Machine Ep. #37

All work brings dignity because we are made to work. But there are levels to the goodness of work, and good work makes you more human. These three categories: purpose, possibility, and prosperity form a Venn diagram or concentric circles, and that diagram will move based on what’s most important to you. And what’s important may change over time too. Work-life balance may be more important when there’s small children in your home. And you may go through a season when creativity is more important to your flourishing. And hopefully, this framework will give you some tools to evaluate where you are and what you’re searching for. For now, we have come to the last episode in the series. The last category of our three P’s of good work is prosperity. And prosperity comes with three elements: compensation, reward, and nurture. Let’s start with compensation, everybody’s favorite part about work. Compensation is the cash and benefits you receive for working at a job. While this is probably everyone’s most important factor in deciding work, I would urge you to be careful about overvaluing it in your search for good work. Some people, money is their goal. Others, enjoying work is their goal.

Others, missional work is their goal. But regardless, you must be compensated. The next thing up is reward. Reward is the non-monetary compensation for working somewhere. This could come in a few ways, one of which is perks. Maybe your boss buys coffee or the company owns a Lakehouse they let employees use. Or at one of my early jobs, I managed an event space and one of my favorite parts was getting to take home leftovers from the events. This was a perk for sure. But then the second part of the reward is maybe the job is fun, cool, or brings status. It is fun working at a marketing firm and it would be cool to work for a Major League franchise. And there’s status associated with working for Congress, and that status can even set you up for future employment based on your status and experience as part of your work. Rewards can look a few different ways, but you will not see them on a balance sheet. Finally, the last element of this category, nurture. Simply put, do you have a company and people at that company that care about you as a person? Are you in an environment where you are nurtured and treated like a person, or are you treated like a machine?

With the amount of time we spend at work, having friends at work, a boss who knows your name and treats you well, and a culture that is nurturing, are keys to having good work. Why settle for less? At Adelsberger Marketing, it is literally part of our mission to value our team. And while we’re not perfect in all of these elements, it’s my goal to make our company the best place to work in West Tennessee. Hopefully, this tool, the three P’s of good work, has been helpful to you as you think about whether you have good work or not. If you have any feedback on the three categories, I would love to hear it. Send me an email at kevin@adelsbergermarketing.com. Thank you for listening to the Content Machine Podcast and we’re going to continue to produce thought provoking podcasts to help you be a better leader and marketer. Please subscribe.

What Makes Good Work – Pt. 2 | Content Machine Ep. #36

This is the second episode in our series about the three P’s of good work. The second P is possibility. Having possibility in your work is a key to good work. One of the things I like about Frameworks, like the three P’s of good work, is that it gives you a tool to think about a subject. A framework helps you, with the insight of others, to think about a subject in a structured way, which can help illuminate that subject in a way that is a bit more divorced from personal experience. The second thing a framework does is it can give you language to discuss something. Having the words to describe something that can be difficult to describe can give you the tools you need to communicate about it and think about it. Our team has a shared vocabulary that allows us to communicate clearly about design, but we have to approach that conversation very differently when we work with a client who is not knowledgeable about design. Even if you disagree with the structure of the three P’s, hopefully it will give you some clarity to make a better decision for yourself and your work-life. This is the second episode in our series about the three P’s of good work.

The second P is possibility. Having possibility in your work is a key to good work. And within this category, there are three elements: autonomy, creativity, and advancement. Let’s start with autonomy. Good work involves lots of autonomy. Autonomy is the ability to make decisions about the work. That involves an employer trusting you with a task. Autonomy allows your brain to think and process and gives you the ability to be flexible if problems arise. Autonomy makes work less robotic and more human. Being able to make decisions about how the work gets done, maybe rotating assignments, working at your own pace, solving a problem, or working without close supervision are all forms of autonomy. It is closely related to the next element, creativity. Creativity is the freedom to create within work. This is not just about, quote-unquote, creative work. It’s about all work. The more a job, any job has the freedom to be creative, the better it will be. Obviously, this applies to work in our field, but it also happens in all types of work. For example, we had someone out to run electricity to our pool pump. There were a hundred ways that you could have gone about getting the electricity from one side of the house to the other to set up the pool pump.

The electricians at our home were able to think through it, using creativity to determine what the best path was. There is creativity available in most jobs. And while some people are more predisposed to thinking creatively, I believe anybody can be creative. Some just exercise the muscle more than others. The final element in possibility is advancement. Having the potential to advance and grow and change in your job is something that many people do not think about ahead of time when they go to work somewhere. Some workplaces hire you to do one job and never expect you or encourage you to grow and develop. This is not a sign of good work. A sign of good work would be a job that allows you to grow your skills and develop new ones and potentially give you the room to get promotions and grow responsibilities. As humans, we are ever growing and changing, and work should reflect that. Some organizations are flat and there are not many titles to go around, but that doesn’t mean they can’t allow you to grow your skills and invest in people that way. This wraps up the second of the three elements of good work, possibility, autonomy, creativity, and advancement.

If you have any feedback on these categories, I’d love to hear it. Send me an email at kevin@adelsburgermarketing. Com, and thank you for listening to the Content Machine Podcast. Be sure to subscribe so you don’t miss the last part of our series.

Internship Diary Entry #1: Inside Jokes For An Outsider

There had been a heat advisory three days in a row and it was 99 degrees outside my car. Inside my car was comfortable, cool and also the last little refuge before a new experience. Life is full of these moments: you’re beginning something new and in that moment it feels all encompassing, then three hours later it’s over and it’s turned out to be nothing more than lunch on a Monday. 

This was the first day of my fall semester internship with Adelsberger Marketing, and as the first days of these things go, it was about as unintimidating as they get. For today at least, there was no work to be done, or even any training. The agenda consisted only of eating lunch at Tulum and meeting the team. Easy enough. Still, nervousness set in. 

A little bell above the door announced my arrival. Around the long table in the middle of the restaurant’s dining area sat the team, save for a few who had yet to arrive. They all looked my way. I recognized two faces: Kevin Adelsberger, Founder and Managing Partner, and Krista Hale, Operations Coordinator and person who had patiently answered my many questions via email. The rest of the faces belonged to strangers. Kevin was the first to speak. 

“Hey, Truman, welcome.” 

He speaks, always, in a way that is friendly but not loud, and looks like he is remembering a good joke he heard. In fact, the whole table looks as though they have just finished laughing at some shared piece of humor. 

Krista greets me, too, and I wave to the group before being shown to a chair in the middle of the long table, across from another vacant chair. These two spots, Kevin says, have been reserved for us, the new interns. 

Two women to my left introduce themselves. 

“Hey Truman, I’m Brittany.” 

Brittany, Brittany, Brittany. 

“Hey Truman, I’m Tamara.” 

Tamara, Tamara, Tamara. 

I repeat names and details to myself internally to ensure I don’t forget anything important and end up looking stupid on day one. 

Another man arrives, takes a seat at the end of the table, and introduces himself with Kevin’s help. 

“Hey Truman, I’m Ricky.” 

Ricky, Ricky, Ricky. 

“You know, now that Truman and Keegan will be around, Eric won’t be The Content Machine guy anymore.” 

This is funny for some reason, unknown to me, and everyone laughs and does their own riffs off of Kevin’s joke. Eric (who has been with Adelsberger for a year already and has thus been dubbed “King Of The Interns”) arrives and makes the same joke and everyone laughs again. At this point, I still don’t know what The Content Machine is. 

We get in line to order our food and someone asks Tamara not to order in French (Tulum is a Mexican restaurant, named after a city in Mexico, just to clarify) and everyone laughs again. Later, Kevin asks the whole table what three books we would bring with us on a desert island. Someone says Les Miserables, pronounced “lay mizzarob,” and Tamara gives them a look before someone says something about the French again and everyone laughs, again. It is then revealed to me that Tamara speaks French and has a tendency to judge the American version of anything relating to the language. Everyone else, in turn, has a tendency to make fun of her for it. 

I realize that the Adelsberger Marketing team has a lot of inside jokes and these jokes tend to whizz through the air during group conversation (and on the company Slack channels) with incredible efficiency. I realize, too, that at some point during the meal I stopped repeating names to myself and started making jokes. 

A lot of companies talk a lot about family and how their employees are all one big happy family. If you’ve ever had a job or just taken a sober look at the American corporate landscape, you know such language is wildly exaggerated. You’re family as long as you work more hours than you’re supposed to and take work home with you. 

Kevin tells his employees not to respond to Slack messages when they’re supposed to be off the clock. 

Adelsberger Marketing is not a family. But it is a group of people who like each other, who enjoy one another’s company, and who have a good time doing good work. And they have inside jokes — enough of them even to calm the nerves of a day one intern who can’t remember names. 

 

What Makes Good Work Pt. 1 | Content Machine Ep. #35

The average person spends about 18% of their waking life working. That’s a huge amount. And it is likely the single largest block of time you spend doing one thing other than sleeping throughout the course of your life. How can we make the most of that time? What makes good work? While that answer is different for every person, after spending some time thinking about it, I think good work falls into three categories. This podcast is the first in a series of three that are taking a look at the categories of good work and the elements within those. Hopefully, this will give you some language and thought process to help you think about how to evaluate if your work is good. Good work makes us more human. The first category is purpose. Purpose entails things that are bigger than ourselves and more meaningful than compensation. Purpose breaks down into three elements: mission, alignment, and accomplishment. Purpose elements are things that really point to who we are and what we care about as people. Let’s start with mission. When we talk about mission and good work, we are talking about the mission of the organization. Does the mission of the organization and what it supports around its work mean something to you?

This may vary depending on the type of organization. You might work at a nonprofit whose mission deeply aligns with your heart. Or you might work at a manufacturer that is not missional but contributes to charitable causes. Having a missional alignment doesn’t just have to be about a charitable cause too. It might be providing a service to a demographic that you care about or helping support people who have a similar experience as you. A missional element to companies and organizations can help increase the level of good work for someone considerably, sometimes overshadowing the other two categories, possibility and prosperity. The world is trending more and more towards trying to infuse missional elements into workplaces where there wasn’t anything like that in previous generations. So be sure to think critically about any workplace efforts to do so and make sure that they are true to the company and true to the people. The second element is alignment. Does this job align with who you are and what your needs are? We all have different skills and strengths. When you are working in your strengths and gifting, you’re going to be happier at work. When you are forced to work in areas of weakness, you’re going to be frustrated at work.

Now, we all have to be team players, and there will be times where you have to play in an area of weakness to help the team win. But on the average, are you able to play in areas of your strength? Good work aligns with your strengths. Additionally, based on the season of life that you’re in, you might need more work-life balance than not. Does your work accommodate for that? Good work respects your life outside of work. The third element of purpose is accomplishment. It would be frustrating to work and never get to finish something or be a part of a finished product. Part of good work is being able to accomplish things. Whether that be a singular task that is part of a whole or being part of a team that finishes a larger task. Accomplishment is good for the soul. While you may have a small part to play in the whole of a project, are you able to take credit for and see the rest of the project to finish? Accomplishment is part of good work because it helps validate the things that you’re doing. Are you able to feel accomplished at work?

It is a key step to finding purpose in your work. We’ll be back next week with part two of good work. If you have any feedback on our three categories, I would love to hear it. Send me an email at kevin@adelsburgarmarketing. Com. Thank you for listening to the Content Machine Podcast and be sure to subscribe so you don’t miss the next two parts in our series.

Working Styles | Content Machine Ep. #34

I have mixed feelings about personality tests. My standard answer whenever someone asks me what my enneagram number is is I’m whatever number doesn’t care about enneagram numbers. But at the same time, I know that some personality tests can be really useful. Recently, a client of ours, Chad Wilson at Foundation Bank, mentioned that his team had started to go through the Working Genius Working styles test. And on that recommendation, I took a look and bought the book, and now our whole team has gone through it. And I have a few thoughts. One of the reasons I like this methodology is it’s focused on how you work and work together with other people as opposed to your personality or who you are as a person. I think that distinction is important here. We all have different personalities, and I want the goal of something like this, like a personality test, to be how can we work together to win with the focus being on the work? This feels less psychoanalytical and more practical and professional. Lencioni, the author of this book, breaks the entire work world into six skill sets, which may come off as simplistic, but I think he really does a good job with it.

Those six categories are broken down into the phases of work. This simple breakdown contains the entire work experience really clearly. Those skill sets are wonder, invention, discernment, galvanizing, enablement, and tenacity. And while this is also very simple, it has a lot of depth to it. There are only six options for you to score in. They also remove any percentages. So it’s a very clear layout of what strengths and weaknesses are. Working genius breaks it down into two areas of genius, two areas of competency, and two areas of working frustration. Each person can do any of the six, but where you’re going to be the happiest and most effective is showed on that chart. The book is written in classic Lencioni format. Half of the book is a simplistic allegory in the form of a fictional office situation. The other half is more of a breakdown of the model of working genius. This isn’t a long read, but it helps to show you how the tool can be used in the entire workplace. The book pushes you to an assessment. The assessment is online only and is $25 per test. The online platform is actually really nice.

It is set up for an admin to make group reports and then send it to the entire company, which is what we did for our group. You get to take the test once, so you got to go with what you are given. And so far, our team has taken it and only one or two people have objected to one of their letters, which I think this means they have it dialed in pretty well. It’s a shortish test, taking maybe about 10 minutes. I don’t think Working genius is going to turn our organization upside down, but I will look at it for a tool and for languages and techniques to help me lead my team better. Getting a better idea of how our team members work will be helpful. Working genius provides a team map that helps to show where people fit together in the whole work environment. And so when we are thinking about hiring specific positions or assigning people to tasks, having an idea of how they might work and work together and having language around that will help us execute better. Have you taken a personality test that you’ve enjoyed? I’d love to hear more about it.

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Special Guest: Matt Marshal Part 2 | Content Machine Ep. #33

Thank you for listening to the Content Machine Podcasts. This is part two of our interviews with Matt Marshall of the United Way.

Well, so you come in and you start pretty quickly changing the dynamic of what it’s done for forever. From a leadership perspective, how are you working on that change with the team? How are you communicating that? Did you have push back? How does that go down?

Yeah. It’s been an interesting, I think, transition for sure. What happened was right when I first started, obviously, I had interview with the board and explain what I hoped the vision for the organization could be. But as I had our very first staff meeting, I just walked into that staff meeting and I just sat down with the staff and asked them, What do you need from me? What do you need from me from this leadership position? What would you like to see? And all those types of things. That really was the genesis of all the rest of it and in that transition because one of the things that communicated at that meeting was the same thing that I had already picked up on. There were some areas of need in the community that they felt like we could address. Now, I’m not going to sit there and say that any of us at that time knew what that was. It wasn’t so much that as much as it felt like we could do more. And so over the course of the next several months and next year or so, we just continued to have those conversations and delve deeper into what does that mean?

And again, things like the Alice Report really helped us to identify that. And then the services we were providing through the pandemic also played a role for sure. If anything, I think I’ve always said to everyone, a lot of the work and the thought process that went into those first early months on the job, late 2019, early 2020, we already had begun to identify where we really wanted to go. We weren’t sure how we were going to get there, but we had figured out where we wanted to go. And what we felt like ended up happening, rather ironically is that the pandemic really put these thrusters to that and just it exposed… It’s like the Warren Buffett quote, “When the tide goes out, you say you’re swimming naked.” That’s right. It exposed, shows so many things that were maybe hidden by the economy or things like that.

I think one of the things that the pandemic naturally did was it highlighted need in our community even more. And so it helped clarify for us, okay, yeah, this is where we need to be investing. So early on, those were the feelings we had. And so over the course of time, as you’re working with the staff and you’re trying to identify, okay, what does this really practically mean on a day to day basis? I think a lot of I don’t really sense any real moments of real push back, not at all. If anything, I felt always a very strong sense of excitement and enthusiasm from our team on direction and where we were going. I think a lot of that was because I’m very team oriented in terms of those types of things. And so, yes, I may have initial thought or a vision for something, and I really love vision casting. That’s definitely where I love to sit. It gets hard for me, the details of all the stuff. That’s where I have to have awesome people around me to help with all of that. But yes, I would walk into the room at times and just have this vision for something, but the process of fleshing that out was always a team project, and I very much welcome that. I think it allow for the staff and the board to feel a part of that process. This was our vision. It wasn’t Matt Marshall’s vision. It was United Way’s vision on how we get there.

There’s a little bit of that that’s going to be more engaging because you’re doing something new that’s requiring buying as opposed to just doing the same old thing again and again. That’s right. It gets people really heavily invested. You have been leading for a couple of years now. When you think about how to brand and market the United Way, how does that thought process work for you?

I’ll go back to… I don’t think we’ve solved this issue yet, if I’m honest. I think we have taken some great strides. But the key problem I walked into… So my first week, all I did was watch a ton of webinars and conferences and all this type of stuff from United Way, worldwide and from all over the United States talking about United Way. I tell everyone, I just was two days into that and I was like, Oh, I see the problem. As I alluded to earlier, no one could tell you what United Way does. The vast majority of people. I tend to separate this out by generations and by age groups because I think if you were to ask someone, generally speaking, who’s 50 or older, they probably could. But if you were to ask someone, generally speaking, what we may be referred to as your Gen Xers, your millennials, and for sure now Gen Z, who is United Way, your Gen Xers would say, Yeah, we’ve heard of United Way and we could tell you maybe what they do. Your millennials would say, I’d say only 50 % of them might say that they’ve heard of United Way, definitely couldn’t tell you what they do. And I’d say most of your Gen Z would be like, Never heard of United Way, have no clue what they do. Millennials recognize the logo. They probably get that. And so Gen Z might not even get that far. And so that’s been the core issue is like, okay, the marketing problem is just that itself, like, brand recognition. And so we actually just from United Way Worldwide did a huge national survey on all of this and looked at the data, and it was really interesting. And so for me, hyper localize that. Our issues are the same just as pretty much anywhere else. Decent brand recognition. People who do know us, have respect for us and trust us, generally speaking. But again, the vast majority of people couldn’t tell you what we do. Or even if they could, they have question marks because many of them would say we sound like a middle man. And I don’t think they’re exactly wrong. And so we don’t want to be just a middle man, right? Yeah, it’s a bad place to be. Yeah, it’s a bad place to be. But it’s like, but how can we be more than that?

And so a big piece of marketing has been trying to figure that out. How can we change the way people view our work and view the impact we’re having in the community? How can we create great stories from the successes of that impact that we’re having in the community, both through our partner agencies and through our direct programming now, how can we get people excited about what United Way is doing and want to be a part of that? And so all of our marketing strategies have been geared around trying to solve those problems, trying to answer those questions. And so, again, I think we have grown by leaps and bounds over the last three and a half years in relation to that. But I would be really honest to say we’re still far from where I think we could be.

And when you’re introducing your new concepts, do you feel like that muddies the water even further? Or how do you feel like that plays in?

Yeah. No, I actually think… And the only reason I can confidently say no is because we spend a lot of time thinking and talking through it. I think it has the potential to do that, right? So as an example, as a nonprofit of nonprofits, there could be folks who just might say, you just need to do what you always did. And maybe you should back up at this point and say, Well, why didn’t we just continue to do what we’ve always done? Well, it wasn’t working anymore. If I’m just going to be blatantly honest, it wasn’t working. Our donations over the past 20 years had just been on a steady decline. And so we were getting less and less donations, which matter not only to our organization, but more importantly to all those organizations we support. And so we want to be able to provide as much funding and backing for them as we can. But if their donations are just steadily going down, well, eventually it’s going to hit the fan and we’re not going to be able to do that anymore. And so we had to shift in some way. And so part of this, the problem we’re solving for is not only… And I’ve said this from day one, I’ve been really honest with all the nonprofits and with the community. When we started our own programs, I didn’t say, Hey, we’re going to start our own programs, and we’re just not going to do that old stuff anymore. No. We said from day one, I want to raise more money for all of our nonprofit partners and raise money for these programs because they’re both needed and need that support. And so, yeah, it could have been bad, right? It could have. But I think how we’ve been able to really do that fairly well is by growing support for the other nonprofits, too. Starting a West Tennessee Nonprofit Network, starting a giving Tuesday 731, where we help those nonprofits raise money on giving Tuesday, have the newsletter going out to all the nonprofits and to the community about all the different things that are happening, not just with United Way, but everybody else. It’s providing all that general support at the same time that we’re also trying to raise up these solutions for these other community issues. I think we’ve done a pretty good job of that. And where I see proof in that, because you could ask that question, Well, how do you know? How do you know if you’re doing a good job? Well, again, and I say this truly with all the humility in the world because it’s not about me and it’s about our team and it’s about more importantly, the community because they’ve done this. And this is what I said at the celebration breakfast a couple of weeks ago. We just had our largest ever fundraising year in the 81 year history of United Way. That’s a huge deal, right?

It’s a huge deal. That’s a huge deal.

And I think that lends credence to people are getting excited about this work. Again, they’re getting excited about our brand. They’re getting excited about the things we’re doing. And that’s the community. That ain’t me. That’s not United Way. That’s the community. And again, it’s just about how can we figure out how to insert ourselves into the Jackson and West Tennessee’s sight guist? The spirit of the times to help people understand what we’re doing and how they can be a part of that.

Yeah. And I bet there’s a strong correlation between people who stopped doing United Way campaigns and then stopped giving altogether.

Probably so.

Yeah. Because it’s a little bit on autopilot. That’s right. So probably the net donations go down and the United Way is great at helping funnel those things. Well, you’ve answered the rest of my questions in that one question. So, Matt, we appreciate your time to come on here. Appreciate what you’re doing for West Tennessee. And if people want to know more about the United Way or want to get involved with the United Way, what should they do to do that?

Absolutely. So there’s so many different ways they can get involved. So I’ve only talked about this many of our programs so far. One’s I didn’t mention that are awesome programs. And the first one I’ll mention that you can get involved with today is the Read Seen program. And so we recruit volunteers from all across Madison County, specifically, we look to grow this program into other counties here in the coming years. But those volunteers then go into the school system and read and help kids increase their literacy scores, which is so incredibly important. And so we are always looking for more volunteers to help with that process. But people can also get involved in some other things that we’re doing. So we hired some tutors on another program called Tutor U this summer that will also be executing over the course of the next school year, both here in Madison County and also in Haywood County. People could sign up to be a volunteer for that. The difference between Reed team and Tutor U, Reed team is more based on sight words, and Tutor U is based on phonetics. So it requires a little bit more training on the phonetic side, but both excellent programs. We want to tackle that from both sides to give students the best chance at reaching those levels that we need them to reach for our test scores across the state and all that type of thing. That’s just an example of how people could volunteer.

But we always say you can give, advocate, or volunteer with United Way. Everybody can do one. If you don’t have time to volunteer, maybe consider advocating alongside us for these needs in our community. And if you don’t have the time to advocate, but you have resources, consider giving. And again, that can go directly to our programs, but also that can go to dozens of agencies here in West Tennessee that you care about as well. And so everybody can do one of those things. They can find out more information about United Way by going to uwwt.org. Go online, learn all about our programs, learn all about the agencies we support, learn about the things that we’re doing and the things that are coming up and get involved with that. They can follow us on social media, Facebook, Instagram, Twitter. We have a YouTube page as well where we have some videos up there about stuff we do.

And then, of course, they can connect with Adelsberger Marketing and everything that’s going on with them because we’re friends and you talk about us sometimes too. You wear our United Way shirt and you rep us.

Matt, thank you for your time and I hope you all will go help the United Way.

Thank you.

Thank you for listening to part two of our podcast with Matt Marshall from the United Way. We hope you’ll go check out the United Way and listen to future episodes of the Content Machine Podcast.

Process Saves Us | Content Machine Ep. #32

Humans have fickle hearts. Our desires can swing wildly from one moment to the next. In fact, just preparing to write this podcast, I was having a hard time finding the motivation to even get started. So, what do you do when you have goals to work towards on days that you just aren’t feeling it? This week on the Content Machine podcast, we’re talking about how having a process can help you build discipline even when the motivation just isn’t there.

An artist, Elizabeth King, once said, “Process saves us from the poverty of our intentions.”

I love this quote because it’s so very true in human life. As humans, our fickle desires can sometimes lead us to forget the intentions we had when we were thinking clearly, thinking more positively, or maybe even thinking with a bigger picture in mind. We might be eating dinner the night before and decide that tomorrow is the day. Tomorrow I will start doing X, or I will accomplish Y. But when tomorrow comes, our hearts have swung around, and our intentions are no longer set on doing X or Y. It doesn’t make you a loser, it makes you a human.

But I think this is what Elizabeth King meant when she said the phrase, “Poverty of our intentions.”

The poverty is fought by discipline. Discipline is capitalized on by a process and a plan. Being able to make a plan is somewhat easy. Sticking to and executing that plan, that’s where the magic is. Having a process around important things in our lives can give us the ability to be successful in those activities, even if our intentions or motivations have taken a dip in that moment. Look, if I was able to make a plan the night before and execute that plan perfectly the next day, every day, I would have conquered the world by now. But to be honest, it’s just not realistic. That being said, here are a few things I’ve found that can help us fight off the poverty of our intentions. Set yourself up to win by being a student of yourself. Pay attention to the triggers that prevent you from following through on a plan. You may notice on nights that you get less sleep or days that you don’t have a plan written out that you are more likely to make the easier choice instead of the right choice.

In my life, I have found that a successful tomorrow starts the day before. I plan the next day out working towards getting good sleep and going to bed on time. These things give me a much more solid start for the next day. I also know that if I don’t go on a run in the mornings, I’m going to be about 70% of my potential self the rest of the day. The same holds true for my phone. If I start looking at social media too early in the morning, it can be a huge distraction throughout the rest of the day. All of these things are things I have noticed about myself over time and then work to build processes around them to help me to be more and more successful.

I also believe in reminders. Reminders to do things. These can be notes on the wall or perhaps in a more modern sense, your phone’s reminders app giving you notifications to do things. Reminders help me to be more successful. Whether that reminder is to plan out the next day or a reminder to go for a run, reminders help us remember what our intentions were. I even have reminders to take out the trash each week. Each night, I write out what my morning looks like and time blocks. The time from 4:15 to 8:00 is planned out to a T. The difference in results between when I do this and when I don’t is significant.

Related to reminders are checklists. Checklists are crucial to success of any repeatable task. I pull some of my thought processes on this from the book checklist Manifesto by Atoll Monde. You can listen to one of our earlier podcasts about that. Our agency has worked to document all of our repeatable processes, everything from the steps to make sure we are naming a new business successfully, or did we do all the steps to launch a new website successfully? Checklists are wonderful because our brains are prone to forgetting things that are routine. One thing I’d encourage you to think about is how to realign yourself when you get out of process. If you have gotten out of process because your intentions have sabotaged you, do you have a mental model on how to reset? Do you have a process to reset your intentions? I usually allow my brain to take a short break like a timed break. Then I return to the problem by outlining step by step what needs to happen, like step one, make a list. Step two, next item, so on and so forth.

I also find music helps me be successful. Usually focus style music like the deep focus, low fi beats, or Middle Earth lo-fi playlists on Spotify.

Learning to overcome your intentions with a process will change your world for a better.

Thanks for listening to this episode of the podcast. As always, if you enjoyed it or found it helpful, please leave a comment or shoot us an email. If you have time this week, we’d love to hear back from you. Let us know, do you have any processes in place in your life? What are the steps you take to get back on track when you get derailed?

Core Values Part 2 | Content Machine Ep. #31

On a previous episode of the podcast, we talked about what are core values and why you should have them. In this episode, we’re going to talk about what the core values are at Adelsberger Marketing.

What are the core values at Adelsberger Marketing? What makes up our unique culture? We have six core values, and we talk about these weekly, and review staff’s fulfillment of them in a quarterly manner. And a little bit of a particular order, here are the six core values.

Core value number one, team. We believe that we win together. Every project is a team effort. Every win is a team win. Everyone is treated with respect and everyone chips in. When we profit, everyone shares in it. We value the input of everyone. We are better together. We go further together. Team is vital to everything we do every day. There is not a single project that is only touched by one person. It is a little bit like a football team. On any given offensive play, the center and the quarterback at a minimum touch the football, but the offensive line also has to be there to do the job for the play to be successful. We will win together.

Core value two, fun professionalism. We like to have a good time at work. We believe in being on time, communicating clearly, and showing up to do the work, being professionals. But we are only serious when we need to be and are determined to enjoy working and working with each other. We love to laugh and should be able to do that at work. Of course, doing that respectfully, we show up and have a good time. If we can’t do that, why are we here?

Core value number three, creativity. We believe good ideas will win the day. We believe everyone is creative, including accountants, regardless of how much they reject that notion. We love to flex our creative muscles and make time and opportunities to intentionally do that. Better ideas give us more opportunities to crush it for our customers. In the coming world of AI, true creativity will be what allows us to thrive in the new model of work that will dominate the landscape.

Core value number 4, responsibility. Or it won’t fail because of me. This is highly related to our number 1 value team. We believe everyone is responsible for getting things done. Take pride in what you do and see that it gets done. Communication is key and confirmation of communication is required. Taking ownership of a responsibility and seeing that it finishes is how we survive. Don’t let the team down. As Bill Belichik says, “do your job.” When everyone does their job, we will win.

Core value number five, improvement. We will be better than we were six months ago. We believe in getting better. We believe in continuous improvement. We believe in learning and growing our skills. If we’re not better than we were six months ago, something is wrong. We will invest in time, tools, and education to improve ourselves to better serve our customers. We are always looking for opportunities to push our skill sets and expand our capabilities.

And finally, core value number six, get stuff done. We will deliver. This is the only reason I am still standing here in business. We believe in doing what we said we will do, and we will deliver what was promised, and if it’s within our control, we will deliver when it was promised. We all work hard and get our hands dirty. Getting things done is a sad satisfactory strategic plan.

Now, these six values are simultaneously true and aspirational. I think you would see all of them currently true in our organization, but we also want to make sure that they continue to be true and become more and more true of the culture and our team.

Thank you for listening to this episode of the Content Machine Podcast. We would love to hear about your favorite core value from any of your workplaces. Send us a message or email.